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TS Top- Care and Feeding

Question:

OK. Call me lazy.  I waited too long to maintain my tablesaw cast iron top, and now there are a few rust patches.  Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.  Will butchers wax do the job, or is there some other product that works better. Thanks!

Best stuff I have found is the Boeing T-9. They make a rust remover and a preventor. If it good enough for airplanes…It works great on tools but watch the remover, it is an acid and will damage finishes, follow the directions :[ Bill

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Near as I can tell, you guys are talking about rust on a table saw top so here’s my 2 (there’s no cents key!!) cents… A few weeks ago there was a post from a guy regarding using a random orbiting sander with progessively finer sandpaper (and some special purpose (micron?), down to like 600grit or so) to clean up a ts top (we’re talking Unisaw-heavy steel, so for less robust make sure it can take it).  Unfortunately, I took the article home so I can’t give you the name or title for dejanews.   I tried a modified version of this idea – only using 220 grit sandpaper in the ro sander and – wow – it worked great!  I got some Butcher’s wax to seal it, though I haven’t had time to do this last step.  I too used the top as a general purpose table and set all kinds of things on it and did all kinds of work – so it had paint stains, rust, etc.  It looks terrific now. As noted in the post, make sure there’s no silicon in the sealant. Renata – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK. Call me lazy.   now there are a few rust patches. been there, Mine was caused by a sweating glass of Idec tea careless left for an hour ;-( Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. I cleaned mine the best I could (w/out scrubbinbg too hard) and just left the stain there… the rust is gone but it IS stained).. such is life… it serves to remind me and all visitors in my shop that machine beds are NOT there to set stuff down on…. (unless you get those doubel walled stailess steel cups from Lee valley Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top. I use Mothers Gold "System 3" It is a pure carnuba paste wax and has NO abrasives. all tools get a lite wipedown after each use.. Keeps rust at bay rather nicely. You can find it at most decent MotorCylce shops and some Walmarts.

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My favirute is charcoal lighter and scotchbrite.  Works great.  I also follow withJohnsons floor wax. Aaron (Bubba)

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OK. Call me lazy.   now there are a few rust patches.

been there, Mine was caused by a sweating glass of Idec tea careless left for an hour ;-( Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks.

I cleaned mine the best I could (w/out scrubbinbg too hard) and just left the stain there… the rust is gone but it IS stained).. such is life… it serves to remind me and all visitors in my shop that machine beds are NOT there to set stuff down on…. (unless you get those doubel walled stailess steel cups from Lee valley Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.

I use Mothers Gold "System 3" It is a pure carnuba paste wax and has NO abrasives. all tools get a lite wipedown after each use.. Keeps rust at bay rather nicely. You can find it at most decent MotorCylce shops and some Walmarts.

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OK. Call me lazy.  I waited too long to maintain my tablesaw cast iron top, and now there are a few rust patches.  Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.  Will butchers wax do the job, or is there some other product that works better. Thanks!

WD40 and 600 grit wet/dry paper has worked for me, followed by a good paste wax for wood. Gary

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A product called "Naval Jelly" applied with the use of a wire brush will get rid of the rust. It is a fairly common product and should be available in hardware stores, auto parts houses, etc. Johnson’s paste wax works fine to prevent rust and lubricate working surfaces for easier wood sliding, but waxes can contain products that can interfere with some finishes (lacquer for one). A spray product named "Top Coat" will do the same job without the associated finishing problems, allbeit at a higher cost. A large can will run $9-$10 but should last the year or so. Both work. I found years ago that my cast iron tops needed less applications as time went on, to the point now that I lube when wood drags rather than for rust protection. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK. Call me lazy.  I waited too long to maintain my tablesaw cast iron top, and now there are a few rust patches.  Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.  Will butchers wax do the job, or is there some other product that works better. Thanks!

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OK. Call me lazy.  I waited too long to maintain my tablesaw cast iron top, and now there are a few rust patches.  Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.  Will butchers wax do the job, or is there some other product that works better. Thanks!

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Naval Jelly will etch the hell out of iron or steel.  If rust ever returns, it’s going to be _much_ worse.  Naval Jelly should only be used on surfaces you intend to prime and paint.   WD40 and ScotchBrite will do the job fine.  Don’t try to restore a silvery, brand new tone to the metal.  It won’t last.  Soon, you’ll learn that cast iron’s natural greyish brown tone is actually very attractive.  And a hell of a lot easier to maintain. There’s two milder products you might be interested in if you don’t care for the hours of fun rubbing in WD40 to watch a beautiful woodowrking machine slowly emerge.  DuPont sells a phosphoric-acid based "Metal Prep", a blue liquid that you dilute with 2 parts water.  Apply it with a rag, and keep the surface wet until the rust fades.  Let dry, then polish with steel wool to take off the dried residue.  Automotive paint dealers carry the product.   The other rust remover goes by the name "Nevr-Dull Magic Wadding Pads".   Looks like Stridex acne pads.  Does a fine job on mild rust with little effort.  Your local hardware store should carry it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A product called "Naval Jelly" applied with the use of a wire brush will get rid of the rust. It is a fairly common product and should be available in hardware stores, auto parts houses, etc. Johnson’s paste wax works fine to prevent rust and lubricate working surfaces for easier wood sliding, but waxes can contain products that can interfere with some finishes (lacquer for one). A spray product named "Top Coat" will do the same job without the associated finishing problems, allbeit at a higher cost. A large can will run $9-$10 but should last the year or so. Both work. I found years ago that my cast iron tops needed less applications as time went on, to the point now that I lube when wood drags rather than for rust protection. OK. Call me lazy.  I waited too long to maintain my tablesaw cast iron top, and now there are a few rust patches.  Some scrubbing with WD40 doesn’t seem to do the trick completely, and I was wondering if someone had some other tips or tricks. Also, I don’t intend to have to do this again, and have read that paste wax is a good protector for the top.  Will butchers wax do the job, or is there some other product that works better. Thanks!

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